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  • Help with unidentified object found in RVN

    If anybody has any idea what this piece of hardware may be from, or what the stamped numbers may indicate, contact Geoffrey at e-mail below.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Geoffrey steiner [ livemem@brainerd.net ]
    To: Wally Beddoe
    Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 1:15 AM
    Subject: Re: hi


    I would like to know if this piece could be traced to a chopper,so i could learn of its history, maybe get this to some museum?? Steve Jones and I went over to Vietnam with all 4 trips, he has lived there 3 years, told me this was part of the chopper. He flew choppers with 2nd 17 cav '69 he was shot down on ho chi minh trail on the far side of hamburger hill. He was with me when I found it. I was in unauthorised area on the old khe sanh base. Pop a smoke guys know of my 2003 trip looking for an MIA jan 21 68 khe sanh town ku buc hill area jtf gave up in 1999. I found 3 sets of remains one with boot soles awaiting dna.....

    This piece is 12 1/2 long by 5 1/2 wide, green on one side, fibreglass date stamped on it,something 22 1966; another stamped numbers 65201 06001 148; someone wrote with pencil 283

    Thanks
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    Pn # 65201-06001-148

    Almost sure this is a CH53 PN #. Will try to identify if can locate an IPB or My friend at Sikorsky. The other number may be a Station location. SF PM

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    • #3
      Pn#65201-06001-148

      Recived verification that this is a CH53 Part the drawing is of frame 544.5 which is 15 1/2 inches forward of the hinge point for the rear ramp since the staion encludes top to bottom it would also include aft of the MGB at the MGB oil cooler. Being fiberglass the oil cooler would likely be the area. Info From my Sikorsky Friend currently assigned to the CH53 facility at Cherry Pt N.C. The dash number 148 was not listed . Hope this will help, it is definitely a CH53 PN. SF PM

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      • #4
        Identification of PN 65201-06001

        Further search on PN 65201-06001 using the photo dimensions & attaching holes show that it was from the CH53A orD at Sta 689 thru 706 outboard the ramp door hinge aft of the ramp wind deflector. Thanks to Don Blossom Sikorsky Rep Cherry Pt NC. The Dash # probably should be -142. SF PM

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        • #5
          Paul,

          You are an amazing Marine!

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          • #6
            Amazing Marine

            Wally,
            You said it! I'm not sure that anything would surprise me with Paul. I suspect he could do the same thing with an H-34, an H-19 or an old SBD Devastator. What a career!

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            • #7
              Joe you are just to young ,the TBD Devastator was a Torpedo plane used by the Navy before they received the TBF Avenger.The SBD was called a Dauntless, got to keep you young guys stright. SF

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              • #8
                Avenger!

                Right you are Walt!! I wasn't thinking clearly when I was recalling Paul's aircraft history in my feeble brain!! I have learned though that when anyone argues with you about aircraft that they had better back up and regroup! They are more than likely WRONG!! You're the only Line Chief I ever knew or heard about that corrected Crew Chiefs on their aircraft side number, 35 years after the fact!! Except maybe for Paul Moore! LOL!
                Thanks for keeping me straight, top!

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                • #9
                  Posting these photos for Paul.
                  ==
                  These 4 Torpedo/Dive Bombers were the series used by USMC in training & the Pacific. Starting with the SBD since the Marine Corps only had one TBD. That was several dash numbers of the SBD Dauntless, The SB2A-4 Brewster was built for the Dutch but never was delivered since they were overran by the Germans. USMC used them for training at Cherry Pt. The TBF/TBM was the primary Dive Bomber after the SBD.

                  The bottom photo is the Curtiss SB2C-4 Helldiver flying over Yap Island. MAG-45 took over our Mission there in the Caroline Islands when we departed for the Okinawa operation (VMTB-232).

                  SF PM
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                  • #10
                    "unidentified part"

                    Wally ..... et al

                    I'll bet that this part (as described by Paul) came from the ramp area of
                    YH-21.

                    That 53 took a rocket to the pylon hinge area during the seige.

                    I'm pretty familiar with this wreck as Capt Riley is the reason I'm still here.

                    Check out the Vietnam KIA Incidents in the below reference for details.

                    I'd be willing to bet good money that this is part of YH-21.

                    I have attached a pic of the YH-21 wreck at Khe Sanh.
                    __________________________________________________ ____________
                    680222 HMH-463 Vietnam

                    Incident Date 680222 HMH-463 CH-53A 153283+ / YH-21 Hostile Fire, Crash

                    [CREW]
                    Riley, James Thomas Capt Pilot HMH-463 MAG-16 680222 (vvm 40E:068)
                    Smith, Cary Carson 1stLt Co-Pilot HMH-463 MAG-16 680222 (vvm 40E:069)

                    http://www.popasmoke.com/kia/inciden...conflict_id=24

                    You all can also check the additional information on our HMH-463 web-site
                    on our Remembrance page:

                    http://www.hmh-463-vietnam.com/kia463/kia22feb68.html
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                    Last edited by Mike Amtower; 02-01-2006, 10:34.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Help with unidentified object found in RVN

                      Originally posted by beddoe View Post
                      Paul,

                      You are an amazing Marine!
                      HI PAUL AND YOU AMAZINGPOP A SMOKE GUYS THAT SAVED COUNTLESS VETERANS.I HAVE BEEN RECOVERING SINCE 06 GETTING TICK/LYMES DISEASES 7 MORE TIMES AND THE 40TH TET I WAS BACK TO KHE SANH 2008.IN HUE GOT MALARIA 20 MONTHS OF RECOVERY WITH GETTING LYMES AFTER I GOT HOME.JAN 24 68 OUR TET STARTED BELOW CAMP CARROLL2 DAYS AGO 4 DAYS BATTLE 4TH MARINES TOOK 300 CASUATIES 22 KIAS 28TH B 52S HIT DONG HA MTN.NEXT DAY 29TH US 4 SURVIVORS WALKED OUT OF CARROLL THE LONG ROAD TO BATTLE SITE MIKES HILL,AS ABOUT 10 OF US NOW TOOK OVER FOX HOLS 4TH MOVED OUT.FROM THE 29TH TILL APRIL 5TH WITH ONLY A FEW DAYS IN REAR.........RECON MARINES WALKED THROUGH OUR POSITIONS I ASKED WHERE YOU GOING?''UP DONG HA MTN. I SAID INFESTED NVA''YEAH WE KNOW'' AN HOUR LATER SITTING BY MY FOX HOLE 200 FEET FROM SONG CAM LO RIVER.I SAW A CH 46COMING FROM THE RIGHT (CAM LO AREA) HOVERED A FEW SECONDS FLEW BACK.SHOOTING HEARD CHOPPER CAME BACK DID SAME LEFT AGAIN...........I NEVER KNEW WE LEFT MIA LT. MOTCHA RECON MARINE.RON GATEWOOD WAS CHOPPER PILOT WE EEED BACK BEFORE I SAW THIS STORY ON MILITARY CHANNEL 2003 UPON MY RETURN TRIP FROM NAM WHERE I WAS FIRST TO FIND MIA REMAINS CASE 1000 BELIEVED BILLY D HILL.JERRY ELLIOTT THE OTHER PATHFINDER FROM THEIR STILL MIA NEXT TO ARMY CHOPPER HIT BY RPG.Jan 21 68 jan 20 seige started. IN CONTACT WITH STAN SELLARS CORPSMAN 2000 CALLED THE MTN DONG MA. ITS DONG HA.......THIS VIDIO SHOWS RON STAN SISTERS RECON GUY GO TO MEET FORMER NVA.HE BURIED LT. MOTCHA 68.WHATS WEIRD HE SAW ME IN 2000 ON TV AND IN NEWSPAPER SHOWING HIS 320THNVA AND 2 REGIMENTS BUDDIES.WENT TO OFFICIALS HANOI.THE REST IS HISTORY LTS REMAINS BACK IN USA.BEEN WANTING TO TELL RON ..STILL HAVE CHOPPER PIECES DO YOU GUYS HAVE MUSEUM?320-749-2565 WELCOME HOME ALL MY BROTHERS.I GIVE GOD THE GLORY ,IT IS NOT MY DOINGS HERE.GOD BLESS CHAPLAIN GEOFFREY STEINER CUSHING MN.livemem@brainerd.net

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