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joeleitz
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george mckee;25850 wrote: just received a model of the '34 i purchased off e bay. came dressed in the 163 clothing complete with the "evil eyes". has a m-60 machine gun in the appropriate place but no armor under the engine nor a gunner on the left side. the markings are yp-20 and bu#150219. intresting that there is also what appears to be a 50 cal pretty much blocking the door. the transmisson cover is not painted but looks pretty good at 1/72 model.

😎 Sounds like a great find, congrats!

 
Posted : 2010-07-29 19:04
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Best memory of retractable FM antenna

I took one of those busted antenna and marked it off in one inch increments. Then walked around with it as my short-timers stick. Each day I would make a big entrance into the avionics shop and saw off another inch.

Semper Fi

Bruce "Howdy" Mayor HMM-161 '69-'70

Semper Fi

Bruce "Howdy" Mayor HMM-161 '69-'70

 
Posted : 2010-07-30 01:36
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Found pic of 2/3rds of a 46 ..........

Please scroll back up these posts to my July 29 post (:D:D:D:D)
to see my pic of the 2/3rds 46.

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Posted : 2010-07-31 10:30
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Ray, it was not the Crew Chiefs job, at least in 265, to ever extend, nor retract the FM Antanna, at any time. The Pilots did the talking and listening on it, and they were responsible for the raising of the thing, as well. 265 may had a few run on landings, with wear downs of the antanna, and or breaks of them, but a straight verticle landing with one extended never happened on any of my Birds in 265. My Pilots were a little smarter than that. I would only let the smartest pilots fly my Birds. If I ever had one that I knew wouldn't listen at all, I'd have a small talk with my line OIC, and have a small change in HAC's made, or the Bird would suddenly come up grounded. Worked every time. Who, is only mine, and his bussiness. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

 
Posted : 2010-07-31 16:22
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If an HMM-262 pilot left the nose wheel locking pin engaged and it got sheared he wore it around his neck for a week!

 
Posted : 2010-08-01 06:57
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Sirs, two questions, 'Droop snoot blades' & 'Ready App'?

Many thanks, Flag track.

 
Posted : 2010-08-27 03:11
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Well Flag Trac, Droop Snoot Blades on the 46 were called that, in my opinion, because they were 13 inches, to a foot longer than the stock blades that came on the Bird from the Manufacturer. We that wanted them did so because I'd rather have 6 ft more of lift power, than Not. They gave the Bird more lift simply put. A number of Crew Chiefs did not care for them, for various reasons. I did as I wanted as much lift as I could get. The READY-APP, is the 1st thing the Pilot asks the Crew Chief on turn up, and if the Hydrolic System that starts the Auxilliary Power Plant is pumped up enough with enough Pressure to crank the APP, the Crew Chief would respond by saying 'Ready-APP, with a Sir, depending on the Pilot. The Crew Chief would stand by the handle that pumped the Hydrolic System up, in case the Pilot waited to long to hit the ignighters to start the APP. If the APP would not start, the Crew Chief would have to start pumping very hard, and fast, until the APP's RPM would get at, or above the ignition point. I did that many times, and it is not fun at all, believe me. If the Pilot missed it, then the whole System would have to be pumped up for 20-30 minutes, and it took time away from the Mission. Not many Crew Chiefs could on APP wind down, pump the Hydrolic System back up, at or above the APP's start RPM. I did every time a Pilot missed it. Never had to take the 20-30 minutes to stop all, and just pump it up again to the high pressure required to start the APP. Believe the pressure required to crank the thing was at least 3500 lbs of Hyd. pressure. I close all my posts with - Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

 
Posted : 2010-08-27 07:23
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Now John...

...am I to believe that the handle never broke while you pumped? One hundred per cent success with that weak part is pretty darn good.

/s/ray

Raymond J. Norton

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Norfolk, VA 23509-1313

(757) 623-1644

 
Posted : 2010-08-27 09:42
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34 model.....Now John

Yes Ray, you can rest assured that the handle on all 5 of the Birds I was on, during training, and the 3 as Crew Chief, did Not break, or bend ONE TIME the entire time I had to pump to assist the stored up Hyd. Pressure, to help start the APP. I did not scrub even ONE mission, and completed every mission but one, when I was shot down, on 2 July,'69. My Birds always launched on time, and we stayed out until we had all of our Missions for the Day completed. Not all can say that, but I certainly can. Thank you. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

 
Posted : 2010-08-27 14:29
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Flag Track;27893 wrote: Sirs, two questions, 'Droop snoot blades' & 'Ready App'?

Many thanks, Flag track.

"Droop-snoot" blades were a required mod to accompany installation of the more powerful dash 10 engines.This to increase lift & max payload.
Called "droop-snoot" because the larger size & wgt. dictated that they had a tendency to pitch off over their length at static.
"Ready APP" is SOP voice comm. between crewchief & pilot on spin-up.
The CH-46 had a small turbine engine located above & between the powerplants & known as an auxiliary power plant or APP.(more commonly referred to as the 'ape')
The C/C stood by outside the a/c with a fire bottle while the fires were lit & comm. went as follows:
"Ready APE.,Ready '1'.,Ready '2'.,Clear to turn,sir."

S/F,Mike

TAKE NO PRISONERS.,SHOW NO MERCY.

DEATH SMILES AT EVERYONE...,MARINES SMILE BACK...

 
Posted : 2010-08-28 10:18
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Thats what I was saying Mike. I know we in 265 even though we had the A model, had the droop-snoot Blades. Our procedure was the Crew Chief would stand by with his right hand on the lever that pumped up the start Hydrolic pressure for the APP, ready to pump if the Pilot didn't hit the ignition at the right time. When the APP was started, we then moved back behind, and to the side of the Bird, and the Crew Chief would say Ready to crank #1, and the Pilot would try to start the #1 engine. (We were allowed 3 Hot starts before the engine was changed). When the #1 engine was turning, we then would go to the starbord side, and tell the Pilot Ready to crank #2. After the engines were turning, the Crew Chief would then un-wind the long cord, and get out to the middle of the Bird for the Blades to turn. We would say 'clear to turn, sir'. If it was a good turn up, with no blades jumping around, we coiled the cord up on either arm, and got on the ramp, and made way to the Crew Chief seat, sat down, and with the left shoulder would throw our weight against it to see if it was secure even though the lock lever was in the lock posisition. We were rolling by then to wherever we were going to lift off for the mission. We never took a fire extinguisher with us, as thats the way I was trained, and There never was an engine fire during my Flight time, on any of the 5 Birds I was on. Had #11, with Paul Davis, the Hoist Bird for 2 weeks, and was with 'Gomer' on #13 'the Goblin', for 2 weeks. After 198 Combat Missions for the month, It was time for my check ride. I became Crew Chief at the end of the Day. As Crew Chief, I had 3-#14's before I was evaced. I loved it, and would surely do it again. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

 
Posted : 2010-08-28 12:44
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I knew I found a picture somewhere, (Picture found on a public source) French 34
20mm in front .50 in back, no room for troops though, seems high on oleos Oh and the YP20 models tail rotor has the blades pointing the wrong way, just so picky ain't I!:D

Regards, Flag T

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Posted : 2010-10-29 05:50
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34 model

Wish they had made the cabin bigger. It was good at picking up space capsules, but couldn't carry much over 10-12 troops, with an m-60. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

 
Posted : 2010-10-29 08:42
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